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Old 10-15-2018, 03:34 PM   #106921
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She used this DNA test to claim she is *part* Native American.
Which, according to the DNA test, is accurate. Case closed.
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    Ol Benny Johnson. The dude that tweeted about how Kanye grew up "impoverished" with no real evidence other than the fact that he's black and later deleted the tweet and posted a revised version to "own the libs"

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    The Elizabeth Warren DNA gambit encapsulates in microcosm what the Dems have been prone to for so long: A credulous insistence that fact-checking can dispel talking points made in cynicism and bad faith.
    https://twitter.com/ishaantharoor/st...98302063611904
    This really is the the trap dems can't help but fall into. Someone on the right, usually trump, makes an outlandish claim that is easy to disprove. The right eats it up, the left disproves it, and then the right melts because of the left's "obsession"

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    And even if she was 100% Native American, it affect the election anyway.
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    Guys, we need to see her long form DNA test!
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    Old 10-15-2018, 03:37 PM   #106923
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    It’s subtle but if you’re paying attention...



    This is all one big continuation of bashing women and dr Ford by trump supporters.



    Just another lying women right? Trying to get over on someone for her own benefit.



    So, don’t believe any of them. Women are liars.


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    She used this DNA test to claim she is Native American. She self identified as Native American, she signed her name as Cherokee, she was published as a woman of color. The Cherokee nation is offended by this, for obvious reasons.

    The DNA results prove nothing and the culture she claims to be important part of her life wants nothing to do with her.

    Not difficult for me to understand.



    the rest of it is anecdotal. Just because the Cherokee Nation is offended and doesn't want her, doesn't mean she doesn't have a Native American in her ancestry. I honestly can't blame them from wanting to distance themselves- the last thing they want is a white woman or man claiming 1/32 heritage and initiating association with their tribe. They likely see the possibility of other white people doing the same and eventually phasing the tribe out.
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    Old 10-15-2018, 03:40 PM   #106925
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    This really is the the trap dems can't help but fall into. Someone on the right, usually trump, makes an outlandish claim that is easy to disprove. The right eats it up, the left disproves it, and then the right melts because of the left's "obsession"
    Dems seem to fall for it every time too
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    She used this DNA test to claim she is Native American. She self identified as Native American, she signed her name as Cherokee, she was published as a woman of color. The Cherokee nation is offended by this, for obvious reasons.

    The DNA results prove nothing and the culture she claims to be important part of her life wants nothing to do with her.

    Not difficult for me to understand.
    Her DNA test was recent. She started telling people of her ancestry in the 90s. Your timelines don’t match up.

    She was born right where Cherokee lived so when asked which tribe she said them. She always maintained she was not part of the nation.
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    Some of you all need to get out of this thread and go look at porn or something. Something that provides a satisfying release. Why you continue to engage in this stupid discussion makes no sense whatsoever. Why you continue to engage with trolls who enjoy nothing more than getting you all fired up makes no sense whatsoever.
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    Old 10-15-2018, 03:47 PM   #106928
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    Some of you all need to get out of this thread and go look at porn or something.
    Why not both?
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    Why does the left keep quoting the absolute best case scenario 1/32 figure?
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    Dems seem to fall for it every time too
    Every single time. Rs will try to muddy the waters and the Ds will happily dump more dirt in when they should just be running on their policy positions.
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    Old 10-15-2018, 03:53 PM   #106931
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    Why are we still talking about warren? IMO it is not that big of a story because it changes nothing. Appears like most dems do not want her to run and most cons think she is too far left to be taken seriously. No one is going to change their opinion of her just because a DNA result was provided. Hell, my paternal great grandmother was a Titanic survivor, not like I can whistle up Cunard Line and demand some sort of compensation. My maternal grandfather was US Navy UDT clearing mines and lanes prior to D-Day and other invasions in the PTO - when he got home he had major PTSD and walked out on my mom and her 2 sisters and 2 brothers. Neither is really relevant to who I am today and neither could get me any fame or fortune so in the end those things mean not much more than family stories to talk about when we get together. Just like warren being proved correct does not change a single thing about who SHE is.
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    Why are we still talking about warren? IMO it is not that big of a story because it changes nothing. Appears like most dems do not want her to run and most cons think she is too far left to be taken seriously. No one is going to change their opinion of her just because a DNA result was provided. Hell, my paternal great grandmother was a Titanic survivor, not like I can whistle up Cunard Line and demand some sort of compensation. My maternal grandfather was US Navy UDT clearing mines and lanes prior to D-Day and other invasions in the PTO. Neither is really relevant to who I am today and neither could get me any fame or fortune so in the end those things mean not much more than family stories to talk about when we get together. Just like warren being proved correct does not change a single thing about who SHE is.
    such a waste of time
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    Trump lies about how many floors Trump Tower is.
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    Why are we still talking about warren? IMO it is not that big of a story because it changes nothing. Appears like most dems do not want her to run and most cons think she is too far left to be taken seriously. No one is going to change their opinion of her just because a DNA result was provided. Hell, my paternal great grandmother was a Titanic survivor, not like I can whistle up Cunard Line and demand some sort of compensation. My maternal grandfather was US Navy UDT clearing mines and lanes prior to D-Day and other invasions in the PTO - when he got home he had major PTSD and walked out on my mom and her 2 sisters and 2 brothers. Neither is really relevant to who I am today and neither could get me any fame or fortune so in the end those things mean not much more than family stories to talk about when we get together. Just like warren being proved correct does not change a single thing about who SHE is.
    I think We are talking about it because it has righties absolutely fucking rattled.
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    Why are we still talking about warren? IMO it is not that big of a story because it changes nothing.
    Trump said she wasn't native american and she proved through a DNA test(which is what Trump said he wanted) that she is. We know it won't change Republican minds but who cares.
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    Somewhere in an alternate universe republicans care a lot about healthcare reform, or children held in cages in camps, or Trump's excessive tax fraud, or his campaign/admins direct ties to so many shady Russian dudes or his obvious financial conflicts of interest around the world, etc.

    But here they are, ranting about a woman not being part Cherokee enough.

    Oh well.
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    Why does the left keep quoting the absolute best case scenario 1/32 figure?
    Same reason the right keeps quoting the absolute worst case of 1/1000+

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    Why are we still talking about warren? IMO it is not that big of a story because it changes nothing. Appears like most dems do not want her to run and most cons think she is too far left to be taken seriously. No one is going to change their opinion of her just because a DNA result was provided.
    It was a slow news day, that's why this is being discussed. Don't worry, it'll pass in a few hours/days. Just like every other story. Manafort pleading guilty and flipping, Trump family tax fraud, Kavanaugh, etc.

    Just give it a few days, and all the stories go away.

    The midterms and elections going forward are going to end up being a game of who can score the worst story about the opposition on the Monday before the vote.
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    Old 10-15-2018, 03:59 PM   #106938
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    I think We are talking about it because it has righties absolutely fucking rattled.
    I am not rattled at all, frankly it never mattered all that much to me. I vote on issues, not identities.

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    Trump said she wasn't native american and she proved through a DNA test(which is what Trump said he wanted) that she is. We know it won't change Republican minds but who cares.
    Fair enough assessment but I do not think her indian ancestry is the reason republicans do not like her, what they dislike are her policies.
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    I think We are talking about it because it has righties absolutely fucking rattled.
    sssooo rattled. No more jokes!
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    I am not rattled at all, frankly it never mattered all that much to me. I vote on issues, not identities.



    Fair enough assessment but I do not think her indian ancestry is the reason republicans do not like her, what they dislike are her policies.
    They seem to spend a lot of time on it.

    Warren is more Native American than Trump is worth $10 billion.
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    Have we talking about this Trump painting yet?

    This is an actual painting on display in President Trump's White House
    https://www.cnn.com/2018/10/15/polit...use/index.html
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    It was a slow news day, that's why this is being discussed.
    Good point and true as hell. Personally I would prefer to discuss what the saudi's did, or rather what almost everyone thinks they did. We can talk about the new caravan of people coming through mexico trying to get into the US. We can talk about the idea that drug companies should have to put a price on medication ads. Personally, I would like to discuss something I believe Lee brought up yesterday, no knock raids because I am torn on that issue. There is so much more going on that is far more interesting than the ancestry of a senator.
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    I tried to change the subject a few times, but sometimes this thread is like a river with a strong current and you just have to give up and paddle in the direction it's headed.
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    I tried to change the subject a few times, but sometimes this thread is like a river with a strong current and you just have to give up and paddle in the direction it's headed.
    Sometimes?
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    Good point and true as hell. Personally I would prefer to discuss what the saudi's did, or rather what almost everyone thinks they did. We can talk about the new caravan of people coming through mexico trying to get into the US. We can talk about the idea that drug companies should have to put a price on medication ads. Personally, I would like to discuss something I believe Lee brought up yesterday, no knock raids because I am torn on that issue. There is so much more going on that is far more interesting than the ancestry of a senator.
    Now that the Cons are proven wrong they suddenly have so much on their mind that doesn't have anything to do with Warren. They are like Warren who?

    Sooooo rattled.
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    Just take the L and move on.
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    Have we talking about this Trump painting yet?

    This is an actual painting on display in President Trump's White House
    https://www.cnn.com/2018/10/15/polit...use/index.html
    Why does it matter what kind of art a President has in the White House. In defense of trump people are clinging at straws with this one. Trump did not ask for that to be made, he did not pay for it - it was a gift from a supporter that he liked and displayed. Another who gives a damn story IMO.
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    Fair enough assessment but I do not think her indian ancestry is the reason republicans do not like her, what they dislike are her policies.
    If they don't like her policies, you'd think that's what they would be ranting about.

    But they (the royal they, Republicans in general) are not
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    That’s a pretty cool painting actually. Reminds me of the dogs playing poker. Funny how most guys have a drink and trumps got a coke

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    Have we talking about this Trump painting yet?

    This is an actual painting on display in President Trump's White House
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    that's real corny
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