***Official Camden, NJ 2010 Thread***

[canes101190]

Originally Posted by CGTP13

I just noticed that 41 Step created this thread. I wonder if he was there tonight.

I said that earlier in the thread. If he was, he definitely left after Bartender.

[hbktonyb]

Originally Posted by Jsc6545

He could not have been serious about Machead.

and saying "that'd be cool" doesn't promise anything

Also said setlist variety so things didn't become too stale, ideally would love to play a show of all unreleased, teased a show of all one album and just stuff from big 3 + whiskey...crap like that.

[dmbfan4ever]

Originally Posted by Jsc6545

He could not have been serious about Machead.

and saying "that'd be cool" doesn't promise anything

Did you even read what I said? I said write in the goddamn post that Dave didn't promise anything.

Where am I?

[RiotAct]

Originally Posted by kanedmb

I know you're so right man, they rearranged BEF->Bartender, which is cheap and shitty, from the 1 slot to the 2, then they threw in some cheap Tripping Billies and some shitty Digging a Ditch, then that horribly new thing called Lying in the Hands of God (what the fuck is that right?!!!), then they just tossed in that shitty Cry Freedom and that cheap Jimi Thing, and ended it with that stupid, cheap, shitty Ants Marching!!!1 What the fuck right?!!!

Your analogy was spot on......

Originally Posted by Jaxx6000

You're a douchebag

he's not a douchebag, he just COMPLETELY missed the point of dmbfan4ever's post there.

[LookingAtYou]

Originally Posted by CGTP13

Dave has nothing to do with how loud Fonz is turned up.

100% incorrect. I sat 30 rows back at SPAC 6/21/08 and watched Dave in the middle of a boyd solo, make a gesture like he was playing a violin to someone sitting on the center/left side of the stage and then pointed his thumb up to get them to turn boyd up. No lie.

[CGTP13]

Originally Posted by canes101190

I said that earlier in the thread. If he was, he definitely left after Bartender.

Thank god they didn't play Two Step.

[dmbfan4ever]

Originally Posted by hbktonyb

Also said setlist variety so things didn't become too stale, ideally would love to play a show of all unreleased, teased a show of all one album and just stuff from big 3 + whiskey...crap like that.

Plus he said all that shit about the band being "more loose" and not always doing what they did the night before and being okay with getting creative. Uhhhhhhh...........really?

[SmoothD41]

Originally Posted by kanedmb

I know you're so right man, they rearranged BEF->Bartender, which is cheap and shitty, from the 1 slot to the 2, then they threw in some cheap Tripping Billies and some shitty Digging a Ditch, then that horribly new thing called Lying in the Hands of God (what the fuck is that right?!!!), then they just tossed in that shitty Cry Freedom and that cheap Jimi Thing, and ended it with that stupid, cheap, shitty Ants Marching!!!1 What the fuck right?!!!

Your analogy was spot on......

You forgot to mention the awesome Eh Hee-->Can't Stop-->Cornbread run!!! And the return of YMDT after a whole 2 show absence!!! and a raging version of You and Me to keep the momentum rolling after Billies! And 4 whole songs from the 1990s era!!!

What a show!

[kanedmb]

Originally Posted by Jaxx6000

You're a douchebag

Not whatsoever, I'm trying to prove a point to the guy that his analogy sucked and didn't apply to the situation at all. And to the people who quote it saying "perfect!!" and "....this.", you just sound stupid and have nothing valuable to contribute to the discussion.

[Jsc6545]

Originally Posted by dmbfan4ever

Did you even read what I said? I said write in the goddamn post that Dave didn't promise anything.

Where am I?

Stefan promised surprising setlists? Did he? When? Seriously though, I would like to know if he did.

[PSUGreyStreet]

i think those who chose to attend N2 over N1 this year (like myself) are in for a treat.

[andrewj063]

I'm guessing tomorrow's show will be superb. Calling it.

[Jsc6545]

Originally Posted by LookingAtYou

100% incorrect. I sat 30 rows back at SPAC 6/21/08 and watched Dave in the middle of a boyd solo, make a gesture like he was playing a violin to someone sitting on the center/left side of the stage and then pointed his thumb up to get them to turn boyd up. No lie.

Yeah, to turn up Boyd in his IEM...

[Jaxx6000]

Originally Posted by kanedmb

Not whatsoever, I'm trying to prove a point to the guy that his analogy sucked and didn't apply to the situation at all. And to the people who quote it saying "perfect!!" and "....this.", you just sound stupid and have nothing valuable to contribute to the discussion.

......not perfect


.....not this



Better?

[CGTP13]

Originally Posted by LookingAtYou

100% incorrect. I sat 30 rows back at SPAC 6/21/08 and watched Dave in the middle of a boyd solo, make a gesture like he was playing a violin to someone sitting on the center/left side of the stage and then pointed his thumb up to get them to turn boyd up. No lie.

Pretty sure that was just for Dave's IEM. I saw something similar to that on youtube watching FTWII. I don't think he's controlling the sound levels throughout the venue.

[RiotAct]

Originally Posted by CGTP13

Thank god they didn't play Two Step.

or #41

[smudge1]

Originally Posted by LookingAtYou

100% incorrect. I sat 30 rows back at SPAC 6/21/08 and watched Dave in the middle of a boyd solo, make a gesture like he was playing a violin to someone sitting on the center/left side of the stage and then pointed his thumb up to get them to turn boyd up. No lie.

yeah, to turn up boyd in the mix in the IEM.

[kav2312]

Well at least the first half of the show looked pretty good, second half...not so much

[kanedmb]

Originally Posted by RiotAct

he's not a douchebag, he just COMPLETELY missed the point of dmbfan4ever's post there.

I really didn't, and if you actually look at the setlist, there is much more good "furniture" than there is "cheap and shitty." Seriously, his analogy sucked because while yes, they are essentially taking the songs they've already played this tour and rearranged them, the vast majority of those songs are NOT "cheap and shitty."

[hbktonyb]

So much for that rehearsal room.

Keeping things fresh, nice.

[Jsc6545]

Originally Posted by hbktonyb

So much for that rehearsal room.

Keeping things fresh, nice.

That thing is a hoax. Duh.

[kanedmb]

Originally Posted by Jaxx6000

......not perfect


.....not this



Better?

Wow, you seem like a really smart guy.

[RiotAct]

Originally Posted by kav2312

Well at least the first half of the show looked pretty good, second half...not so much

sadly, that's been the M.O. for a lot of the gigs this summer

[CGTP13]

Originally Posted by RiotAct

or #41

Yeah lucky day. We don't have to hear a news story about a DMB fan murdering the band's sax player for not playing a glissando.

[LookingAtYou]

Originally Posted by kanedmb

I know you're so right man, they rearranged BEF->Bartender, which is cheap and shitty, from the 1 slot to the 2, then they threw in some cheap Tripping Billies and some shitty Digging a Ditch, then that horribly new thing called Lying in the Hands of God (what the fuck is that right?!!!), then they just tossed in that shitty Cry Freedom and that cheap Jimi Thing, and ended it with that stupid, cheap, shitty Ants Marching!!!1 What the fuck right?!!!

Your analogy was spot on......

Listen dude..........I've been going to shows since 1998...I remember a time when this band left its heart out on the stage every night, didn't give a shit about money, curfews, selling merchandise, etc.

Bottom line is that the sets are repetitive as hell, lack creativity, and that show was extremely low energy tonight. No way around it......"Big Eyed Fish just got played??? I bet you $1000 that Bartender is next".....We're 15 songs in and So Damn Lucky hasn't gotten played? Bet you my car it will show up in the Encore....."After 15 straight years of using it, Watchtower hasn't been in an encore in 2 shows? Guarantee its showing up."

[dmbfan4ever]

Originally Posted by kanedmb

I really didn't, and if you actually look at the setlist, there is much more good "furniture" than there is "cheap and shitty." Seriously, his analogy sucked because while yes, they are essentially taking the songs they've already played this tour and rearranged them, the vast majority of those songs are NOT "cheap and shitty."

Well, that wasn't the post he way referring to. Even though the furniture post has merit, I did not write it. The one he is referring to is MINE, which says the quality of the songs is not what all the complaining about is in most cases, it's the laziness of song selection.

[smudge1]

Originally Posted by Jsc6545

That thing is a hoax. Duh.

maybe Stefan is rehearsing stuff in his bus by himself, playing songs he hopes the rest of the band would maybe play.

[LookingAtYou]

Originally Posted by hbktonyb

So much for that rehearsal room.

Keeping things fresh, nice.

The "rehearsal room" was an excuse made up to why the band stopped sound checking before shows...look at the 2007-2009 tours....You will see a steady decline in the number of sound checks. This year they just said fuck it.

[kav2312]

Originally Posted by RiotAct

sadly, that's been the M.O. for a lot of the gigs this summer

yeah i know. Its too bad cause just one or two realistic song differences could have balanced some shows out and made them significantly better.

[kanedmb]

Originally Posted by dmbfan4ever

Well, that wasn't the post he way referring to. Even though the furniture post has merit, I did not write it. The one he is referring to is MINE, which says the quality of the songs is not what all the complaining about is in most cases, it's the laziness of song selection.

But then how did I "miss the point" of your post if I wasn't referring to it in any way...