**Official Running Thread**

[TypicalBilly14]

It appears that the Boston Marathon is not happening this year.

[whodat]

Originally Posted by TypicalBilly14

It appears that the Boston Marathon is not happening this year.

More like not gonna happen, in real life, this year. Only virtual.

https://www.baa.org

Curious to see how the other big dominos fall after this announcement.

[WidespreadMule3]

Hoping to run my 10k tomorrow morning. Weather is supposed to be low 70s and sunny. Technically I ran it last weekend but I wasn't pleased with my time. It was high 80s and super humid and I was running on an unfamiliar course that turned out to be super hilly. I mapped out a new 3 mile course (running it twice) on my bike last week and ran thru it Monday. It was significantly easier than the last course. I'm hoping the combo of the two will make this a much better run.

Fingers crossed my calf will let me get through this. I've been rehabbing it pretty aggressively all week. Already told my PT she's gonna be hearing from me next week

[laura22]

Originally Posted by TypicalBilly14

It appears that the Boston Marathon is not happening this year.

sucks, but not surprised

Originally Posted by whodat

More like not gonna happen, in real life, this year. Only virtual.

https://www.baa.org

Curious to see how the other big dominos fall after this announcement.

ya, i'd say no races for the rest of 2020.and if there's another wave during flu season, maybe no big races until until fall 2021

i ended up deferring my big sur entry to 2022, starting to feel more confident that this was the right decision

Originally Posted by WidespreadMule3

Hoping to run my 10k tomorrow morning. Weather is supposed to be low 70s and sunny. Technically I ran it last weekend but I wasn't pleased with my time. It was high 80s and super humid and I was running on an unfamiliar course that turned out to be super hilly. I mapped out a new 3 mile course (running it twice) on my bike last week and ran thru it Monday. It was significantly easier than the last course. I'm hoping the combo of the two will make this a much better run.

Fingers crossed my calf will let me get through this. I've been rehabbing it pretty aggressively all week. Already told my PT she's gonna be hearing from me next week

good luck! 10k is sneaky tough

[mdel21]

Ran 5 in 38:10. Been feeling good lately.

[cazzie34]

I pretty much run exclusively by heart rate now. Pace is 100% secondary except when I do speed runs.

[WidespreadMule3]

Did my 10K! First 10K since 2018 that I've done without stopping to walk. My time was about ~1min less on my avg mile. I'd like to get it under 10 min but to not stop running the entire time was a big win for me.

I really figured out pacing today. My lungs caught fire around mile 2 and I unintentionally eased back and realized I could catch my breath. It was awesome. Completely changed my entire run.

[whodat]

Originally Posted by laura22

ya, i'd say no races for the rest of 2020.and if there's another wave during flu season, maybe no big races until until fall 2021

i ended up deferring my big sur entry to 2022, starting to feel more confident that this was the right decision

My feeling on races, whenever they come back, and those that choose to participate will determined on the comfort level for runners. There is really no one-size-flts-all scenario, even with contract tracing, expanding testing, a vaccine and/or if some type of face covering is mandatory. It really boils down to are the participants comfortable in that environment.

My thoughts on any large scale event, like the NYC Marathon, will offer a myriad of options for runners, if any of them goes forward. Some runners will be fine and run, others will prefer to defer to later dates, other might want a refund and try again later.

Laura, your choice on deferment for Big Sur to 2022 I think shows that exact idea at play. Every runner/person will have a a varying level of comfort and only that person can make the choice/decision that works best for them. The key will be if races offer enough options to runners and stay around to honor those options.

[whodat]

Originally Posted by WidespreadMule3

Did my 10K! First 10K since 2018 that I've done without stopping to walk. My time was about ~1min less on my avg mile. I'd like to get it under 10 min but to not stop running the entire time was a big win for me.

I really figured out pacing today. My lungs caught fire around mile 2 and I unintentionally eased back and realized I could catch my breath. It was awesome. Completely changed my entire run.

Very nice! How did you feel in the days after? Been able to ride/build on this run in your training?

[WidespreadMule3]

Originally Posted by whodat

Very nice! How did you feel in the days after? Been able to ride/build on this run in your training?

Some soreness but overall felt pretty good. Went for a short run about 3 days later and all my pain returned. I haven't run since. My PT is going to check it out next week but I fear I'm gonna be looking at some time off again.

Fortunately, I got a bike and have been tearing up the roads with that. Nearly 30 miles this last week alone.

[whodat]

Originally Posted by WidespreadMule3

Some soreness but overall felt pretty good. Went for a short run about 3 days later and all my pain returned. I haven't run since. My PT is going to check it out next week but I fear I'm gonna be looking at some time off again.

Fortunately, I got a bike and have been tearing up the roads with that. Nearly 30 miles this last week alone.

Sounds like up and down with the pain returning. What did the PT end up advising?

On a brighter note, I think I have finally found my groove again. Took some much needed time in April to rest up, then that leaked into May. Did a few speed workouts during the week, nice easy paced run and a long-ish run on the weekend. All seems to be coming together again, or at least I do not feel like I am running through molasses anymore.

[WidespreadMule3]

Originally Posted by whodat

Sounds like up and down with the pain returning. What did the PT end up advising?

On a brighter note, I think I have finally found my groove again. Took some much needed time in April to rest up, then that leaked into May. Did a few speed workouts during the week, nice easy paced run and a long-ish run on the weekend. All seems to be coming together again, or at least I do not feel like I am running through molasses anymore.

She said since we're friends at this point she'd stop by after work one day to look at it and give me a recommendation. She's going to dry needle it as well. If she thinks it's more than that one session she's going to tell me what to say when I go to the doctor so I can get an order for more PT.

[Whiteyxc514]

Anyone have a good treadmill recommendation? I don’t want to break the bank but realize this is an investment and something I will hopefully have/use often for many years.

[YankeesDMB41]

Originally Posted by YankeesDMB41

Ive lost 30 lbs since December from just riding my stationary bike and intermitten fasting. I started going for jogs last week. What's the most effective way to lose weight running?

Originally Posted by whodat

You are welcome and keep us up to date on the progress.

So that was almost 2 months ago. Since this post, I am now at the point where I'm running 3-5 miles every day at a 11-13 minute mile pace. Another 25 lbs down brings me to 55 lbs since the beginning of the year. 255 -> 200. My resting heart rate, which was in the late 80's early 90's BPM in December is now 40...This Apple Watch and running have absolutely added years to my life. Hoping to get down to 185 lbs by the end of the summer (I'm 5"10). It's insane how fast the body can change. I couldn't jog 10 minutes straight 3 months ago and now I have had days were I go 50-60 straight minutes jogging without stopping.

[whodat]

Originally Posted by YankeesDMB41

So that was almost 2 months ago. Since this post, I am now at the point where I'm running 3-5 miles every day at a 11-13 minute mile pace. Another 25 lbs down brings me to 55 lbs since the beginning of the year. 255 -> 200. My resting heart rate, which was in the late 80's early 90's BPM in December is now 40...This Apple Watch and running have absolutely added years to my life. Hoping to get down to 185 lbs by the end of the summer (I'm 5"10). It's insane how fast the body can change. I couldn't jog 10 minutes straight 3 months ago and now I have had days were I go 50-60 straight minutes jogging without stopping.

That is damn impressive. Big congrats and keep up the work.

[YankeesDMB41]

Originally Posted by whodat

That is damn impressive. Big congrats and keep up the work.

Thank you! I stepped on the scale this morning and was under 200 pounds for the first time in a very long time....it feels great.

[mdel21]

Originally Posted by mdel21

Just signed up for the Great Virtual Race Across Tennessee 1000k. It goes from today until August 31st. You have to cover 1000k running or walking. It averages out to about 5 miles a day. I've been running 20 miles a week, plus walking every day so I think I can do it. You get a shirt and a medal sent when you finish.

https://runsignup.com/Race/TN/Memphi...Tennessee1000K

You can still sign up today. I have 5 friends doing it too.

Finished this today. 635 miles was the total. Took me 80 days. My leg is hurting for the past week but I just wanted to get done as soon as possible.

[whodat]

Originally Posted by mdel21

Finished this today. 635 miles was the total. Took me 80 days. My leg is hurting for the past week but I just wanted to get done as soon as possible.

Damn! That is an 8 mile per day average to get that done. Bravo! Do you have the next virtual race picked out? After the leg feels better, of course.

[mdel21]

You can keep going to 1000 miles if you want by 8/31. I'm mentally exhausted of trying to keep up. To be fair also that was running and walking. Probably a 70/30 split.

[WidespreadMule3]

Originally Posted by mdel21

Finished this today. 635 miles was the total. Took me 80 days. My leg is hurting for the past week but I just wanted to get done as soon as possible.

Whoa! Congrats! That's awesome!

[JRS1386]

Anyone else using a Garmin device annoyed by their lack of communication during their “maintenance”

[laura22]

Originally Posted by JRS1386

Anyone else using a Garmin device annoyed by their lack of communication during their “maintenance”

ya it’s been down for a few days now

[JRS1386]

Originally Posted by laura22

ya it’s been down for a few days now

Super annoying because I’m trying to get the 100 mile for July badge and have no idea of my progress.

[mdel21]

Originally Posted by JRS1386

Super annoying because I’m trying to get the 100 mile for July badge and have no idea of my progress.

You don't keep a spreadsheet of your mileage that is color coded for what pair of shoes you were wearing, keeps a tally for each month, what's you're on pace for the year, and a rolling total for the previous 12 months?

[cry_minarets458]

I weight trained all winter. Had to end it early Bc of covid. I started running again i think in eary may. Have my weekly long-run up to 9 miles and I’m trying to run just about every other day anyway 4-6 miles. Again one day per week is reserved for 9ish miles. I’m hitting the point where my paces are shit and my legs are dead. I think it’s just heat

But my last two runs around the perimeter of Central Park, I notice the unevenness of the sidewalks really affects the top/dorsal aspect of my left foot. Any ideas how to help it along other than rest?

[laura22]

Originally Posted by mdel21

You don't keep a spreadsheet of your mileage that is color coded for what pair of shoes you were wearing, keeps a tally for each month, what's you're on pace for the year, and a rolling total for the previous 12 months?

i include the moon phases with my menstrual cycle

Originally Posted by cry_minarets458

I weight trained all winter. Had to end it early Bc of covid. I started running again i think in eary may. Have my weekly long-run up to 9 miles and I’m trying to run just about every other day anyway 4-6 miles. Again one day per week is reserved for 9ish miles. I’m hitting the point where my paces are shit and my legs are dead. I think it’s just heat

But my last two runs around the perimeter of Central Park, I notice the unevenness of the sidewalks really affects the top/dorsal aspect of my left foot. Any ideas how to help it along other than rest?

ya summer running is a different game, humidity and higher temps will slow you down. don’t get caught up with hitting a pace

uneven road/sidewalk can increase injury risk. since you are starting to notice a little pain, id immediately switch up the route. so you aren’t putting that stress on your body for every run

also do ankle exercises. make the alphabet with your foot every morning

[whodat]

Originally Posted by cry_minarets458

I weight trained all winter. Had to end it early Bc of covid. I started running again i think in eary may. Have my weekly long-run up to 9 miles and I’m trying to run just about every other day anyway 4-6 miles. Again one day per week is reserved for 9ish miles. I’m hitting the point where my paces are shit and my legs are dead. I think it’s just heat

But my last two runs around the perimeter of Central Park, I notice the unevenness of the sidewalks really affects the top/dorsal aspect of my left foot. Any ideas how to help it along other than rest?

Originally Posted by laura22

uneven road/sidewalk can increase injury risk. since you are starting to notice a little pain, id immediately switch up the route. so you aren’t putting that stress on your body for every run

also do ankle exercises. make the alphabet with your foot every morning

I know that area/place you are running on, Justin, and Laura's recommendation of ankle exercises is spot on. Really any type of lower leg strength and stability will be very helpful, even when not running on the uneven pavement. Running is a single-leg sport, so making sure we are evenly balanced and supported on each leg is key to injury prevention.

[WidespreadMule3]

Heat and humidity is brutal. I'd taken some recovery time (and I've been enjoying biking) and went back out for the first time in about a month this morning. Good lord, it wasn't even that hot yet, probably in the mid-80s, and I was dripping sweat after 3 miles. Really glad I didn't wait until this afternoon to go

[TypicalBilly14]

https://twitter.com/darrenrovell/sta...19193759494144

[cazzie34]

Originally Posted by cazzie34

I pretty much run exclusively by heart rate now. Pace is 100% secondary except when I do speed runs.

Anyone try to follow the 80/20 rule? Supposedly you can run faster by training slower. Basically you want 80% of your running to be "easy" aka in the aerobic zone and 20% to be "hard" or "moderately hard" aka in the threshold or maximum zone. This allows your body more time to recover and you get more benefit from the speed work you actually do.

For me, that means doing my easy runs with a heart rate below 149.

I'm trying it out mainly because I want to keep injuries down. I did 7 on Sunday and man it's hard to keep the heart rate below 149 in the heat. I ended up still in the threshold zone for like 50% of the run.

I did 3.5 this morning and I was able to stay almost 100% below 149. I'm doing like 9:45 miles now whereas before I'd probably be doing 8:45 miles.

Here's the book I'm reading on it: https://www.amazon.com/80-20-Running.../dp/B00IIVFAEY