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Old 12-14-2017, 10:09 AM   #781
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Re: Live Trax 44 - 9/4/16 (Gorge)

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Not sure why you're expecting this Live Trax to beat every favorite version of those songs. You're just setting yourself up for failure if that's the case. I used to be that way several years ago, but then listening to the music stopped being enjoyable and was more of a competition of "will this version beat my favorite version? If not then it's meaningless and I'll never listen to it again."

I'm certainly guilty of this regularly, constantly looking for the best version of any given song. It's a futile practice that I've been trying to get away from.

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Does anyone else get a tad emotional when a good version of LIOG is played. Boyd absolutely crushes it when watching on Blu Ray. I'm a grown man I ain't scurred.

Yup, song is absolutely gorgeous, especially when Boyd shows up for it.
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  • Old 12-14-2017, 10:16 AM   #782
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    Re: Live Trax 44 - 9/4/16 (Gorge)

    Wow is voice was so bad on this dvd... was on the rail for this and I knew it wasn't good but the show was great overall so I didn't think much of it


    but watching this was rough


    LIOG, Stone, and Last Stop were incredible
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    Old 12-14-2017, 10:40 AM   #783
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    Re: Live Trax 44 - 9/4/16 (Gorge)

    Through Minarets and for me the only REALLY rough ones have been Say Goodbye and parts of So Damn Lucky. But even then I was surprised with how well he hit the falsettos on Minarets and Say Goodbye.
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    Old 12-14-2017, 11:32 AM   #784
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    Re: Live Trax 44 - 9/4/16 (Gorge)

    My download isn't working, it's just downloading the artwork. Had to call customer service to reset it and same result.
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    Old 12-14-2017, 11:47 AM   #785
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    Re: Live Trax 44 - 9/4/16 (Gorge)

    And now they’re saying they couldn’t figure out the issue and they’ll email me when they fix it. Mess.
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    Old 12-14-2017, 12:22 PM   #786
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    Re: Live Trax 44 - 9/4/16 (Gorge)

    Retract my previous statement somewhat. sounds like the levels are adjusting during songs. Strange. And the bass is flooding out the overall sound. Too high. Carter sounds great by himself, but in the jams he gets drowned out
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    Re: Live Trax 44 - 9/4/16 (Gorge)

    Just finished and really enjoyed this release. Despite Dave's vocals which aren't as horrific as some may say. He struggles here and there, but nowhere near ruining the release. I really like the mix on this. Tim is mixed in well and Rashawn is very tame on this which is very welcome. It's been a long time since this has been said about a newer show, but this release belongs to Boyd. He is mixed in very well and he sounds fantastic throughout the entire show. Very much looking forward to the blu-ray.
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    Re: Live Trax 44 - 9/4/16 (Gorge)

    Watched the blu ray again yesterday...picture is great , it's about time the band released a full quality blu ray ,hopefully Central Park is next. Nice to hear Boyd for a change and he was on fire . And we know about Dave's voice , it just gets worse and worse as this show goes on . Stone is great as always , PM > Crash is fine , but ODH Idea and the played out BDTH are brutal , as Dave's voice is completely shot during Idea and BDTH . #41 is painful , and then just Say Goodbye literally to Dave's voice for the rest of the show. Which is a shame, because this is really a nice gig . Last Stop is almost unlistenable .

    No question N3 Gorge has a great set list , but if mgt HAD to release a Gorge show from '16, they might have been better off releasing N1 or N2 (I prefer N1). After listening to the bonus disc Dave's voice isn't half as bad as N3. A couple of tunes from N3 ( Stone and Ants) could have been on the bonus disc with a majority coming from N2 . Just my 2 cents.
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    Old 12-14-2017, 02:30 PM   #789
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    Re: Live Trax 44 - 9/4/16 (Gorge)

    Just got mine and oh man, the mix and sound on the blu ray is killer. Horns are shining the most for me in this. Hopefully this sold well so they keep doing these.
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    Old 12-14-2017, 02:50 PM   #790
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    Re: Live Trax 44 - 9/4/16 (Gorge)

    I haven't watched this yet (my shipping says I should get it today), but sounds like this might have been a better release if they had treated the weekend like a mixtape instead of one show. For the blu-ray and release make a custom show from the best sounding songs.

    Would everyone enjoy a live compilation like that instead of a full show, or would that be sacrilegious?
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    Re: Live Trax 44 - 9/4/16 (Gorge)

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    From what I can remember they've never released live versions of new songs on an album not released yet. The only exceptions that come to mind are Hello Again, Cornbread, and most likely Black and Bluebird since it'll be on the new album. But the first two were just on bonus discs.
    Hello Again was on the Stand Up album, not a bonus disc.
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    Re: Live Trax 44 - 9/4/16 (Gorge)

    Has anyone else had trouble playing the Blu Ray on a PS4?
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    Re: Live Trax 44 - 9/4/16 (Gorge)

    Had a moment of displeasurament when the first disc in the digipak didn’t play and reported as an error after I tried twice to spin it. The first disc is the BD, silly me.
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    Had a moment of displeasurament when the first disc in the digipak didn’t play and reported as an error after I tried twice to spin it. The first disc is the BD, silly me.
    Did the same thing. Im a fuckin idiot lol
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    Re: Live Trax 44 - 9/4/16 (Gorge)

    I'll be brief: great video quality, great sound mix, great set list.
    Yes - dave struggled with the vocals, but you can tell on the video that the man is TRYING to do right to the songs/fans!
    Last summer tour (dmb) show before the break after 25 years straight of summer tours, and at one of the finest venues on the planet... a good one to have a recording of. I'm satisfied.
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    Old 12-14-2017, 06:47 PM   #796
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    Re: Live Trax 44 - 9/4/16 (Gorge)

    I remember when they brought Joe Lawlor, I thought: “Cool! Wonder what they bust into!”
    Then I hear his opening guitar solo and without a doubt hearing the opening progression of The Last Stop it! Oh my God! Are they going to break into The Last Stop with Joe a Lawlor! Then they go straight into R&R. Shit man that bites! As the night progresses I keep thinking: “Last Stop, right?” towards the end I had given up hope they play it. Then finally they break into it! I must have been the only one on lawn jumping and cheering!
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    Re: Live Trax 44 - 9/4/16 (Gorge)

    I like R&R a lot, shoot me
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    Re: Live Trax 44 - 9/4/16 (Gorge)

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    I remember when they brought Joe Lawlor, I thought: “Cool! Wonder what they bust into!”
    Then I hear his opening guitar solo and without a doubt hearing the opening progression of The Last Stop it! Oh my God! Are they going to break into The Last Stop with Joe a Lawlor! Then they go straight into R&R. Shit man that bites! As the night progresses I keep thinking: “Last Stop, right?” towards the end I had given up hope they play it. Then finally they break into it! I must have been the only one on lawn jumping and cheering!
    During the day of the show, my brother and his wife asked me what I thought would open the show and what the last two songs of the night would be. I said The Stone would open, and the last songs would be Last Stop followed by Ants. My brother asked me if they would play an encore during the break, and I said, "Yeah, but I think the only songs left they could play are Pig and Stay." They were amazed. Wizard status = achieved.
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    Old 12-14-2017, 07:45 PM   #799
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    Re: Live Trax 44 - 9/4/16 (Gorge)

    Well, this release wasn’t as bad as the naysayers would have you believe.

    Musically, it’s actually very solid, good.
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    Re: Live Trax 44 - 9/4/16 (Gorge)

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    I like R&R a lot, shoot me
    Its too long with Joe's solo

    Dave's voice is appropriate on it
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    Its too long with Joe's solo

    Dave's voice is appropriate on it

    Funny thing for me is they can have Joe on it, Tim on it, the guitar playing that impresses me the most on R&R is Dave's
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    Re: Live Trax 44 - 9/4/16 (Gorge)

    Rhyme and Reason is a top 10 DMB song
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    Rhyme and Reason is a top 10 DMB song
    the one from Live 25 is one of my most-listened-to tracks of the past year
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    Re: Live Trax 44 - 9/4/16 (Gorge)

    Sorry for not backreading, but is anyone else having issues with CD playback? All three CDs won’t play in my car, but the Encore Trax works.
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    Re: Live Trax 44 - 9/4/16 (Gorge)

    I feel like I just watched Dave go 12 rounds in the ring with his voice. He gave it all he had. Kind of admire how he battled. Mix is great. Tim is perfectly mixed in and not overpowering the whole set for a change
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    I feel like I just watched Dave go 12 rounds in the ring with his voice. He gave it all he had. Kind of admire how he battled. Mix is great. Tim is perfectly mixed in and not overpowering the whole set for a change
    Agreed with the mix. Despite Dave's voice I think this is one of the better releases from this lineup. It's one of the most "DMB sounding" releases from this iteration of the band. I love how toned down the horns are, mainly because it means very little Rashawn. The less Rashawn the better.
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    Re: Live Trax 44 - 9/4/16 (Gorge)

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    Sorry for not backreading, but is anyone else having issues with CD playback? All three CDs won’t play in my car, but the Encore Trax works.
    thats because the way they are made. gently wipe them off, both sides with a microfiber (preferred) cloth. your issue will be no more
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    Re: Live Trax 44 - 9/4/16 (Gorge)

    and/or, there is no traditional label, and the laser reads all the way though the cd, so slipping into the cardboard case, a little debris gets on the cd that interferes with the playback. thats why your encore trax cd plays easier
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    Re: Live Trax 44 - 9/4/16 (Gorge)

    I would have to compare to the tapes, but I almost wonder if Boyd re-recorded some parts. If I remember correctly you can't hear Boyd at all on Cry Freedom from the taper pull, yet he's front and center on the bonus disc and plays it beautifully. Just another head scratcher. If he sounded that good, why mute him?
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