Pro Wrestling is FAKE!?!

[artiej1120]

I've been on the Enzo-to-205 train for a while, glad they pulled the trigger. Also, LOVED Reigns/Lesnar before the cash in. Just a slugfest where both guys told an amazing story.

[chadizzy1]

Originally Posted by Roose13

This is good to know. I will be watching that shortly.

On Wednesday I usually do Tuesday's 205 Live then watch NXT in it's usual time slot. Makes it feel more like a full show.

[BotheLaneFan]

Originally Posted by Roose13

This is good to know. I will be watching that shortly.

Thoughts?

[Roose13]

Originally Posted by BotheU2Fan

Thoughts?

Excellent, excellent match. Just the way it flowed made it go by without feeling like you were watching an 18-minute match.

[chadizzy1]

So WWE is banning beach balls now

http://www.ringsidenews.com/2017/08/...ed-wwe-events/

[Roose13]

They should. It's not a Zac Brown concert and it's fucking annoying. Good for Cesaro to rip the stupid things up.

[BotheLaneFan]

Originally Posted by Roose13

Excellent, excellent match. Just the way it flowed made it go by without feeling like you were watching an 18-minute match.

It's gonna be high on my list for match of the year. The way he faked being wxhausted at the end, only to fucking WOLLOP Neville was fucking amazing.

[chadizzy1]

Originally Posted by BotheU2Fan

Neville v Tozawa last night was a 5 star classic. Wow. Damn shame 8 people watched it.

Just watched, what a match.

How do you get people to watch 205 Live? It's a solid show. And some great matches.

[bartender_man]

Originally Posted by Roose13

Roman/Brock was an excellent match before the cash-in. It put Roman out there as a star - the way he sold, told a story and delivered on the big stage. He's been doing that consistently ever since, yet the fans think he sucks. Wah wah.

He's good but come on-main event 3 years in a row....Not that good.

[chadizzy1]

Watching NXT and thought Sarah Logan looks familiar. Turns out that's Crazy Mary Dobson, but they made her into a grinning country girl. Interesting change.

[chadizzy1]

So Bobby Roode said in an interview when asked if he was done with NXT he was going take on Roderick Strong again, and get his rematch with Drew McIntire, and then when he gets his NXT title back he will be done with NXT.

None of that made any sense to me.

[Roose13]

Originally Posted by bartender_man

He's good but come on-main event 3 years in a row....Not that good.

To be fair, only reason he got it again this year was strictly because it was Taker.

[BotheLaneFan]

Meltz ratings for NXT and SummerSlam

Almas v Gargano: 4.25/5
Sanity v AOP: 3.75/5
Black v Itami: 4.25/5
Asuka v Ember: 4.5/5
McIntyre v Roode: 4.25/5

Miztourage v JJ & Hardy's: 2/5
Neville v Tozawa: 3.5/5
Usos v New Day: 4/5

Cena v Corbin: 2/5
Natty v Naomi: 3/5
Cass v Show: 1/5 (GENEROUS)
Orton v Rusev: No rating
Banks v Bliss: 3/5
Finn v Bray: 2.75/5 (fucking ridiculous. This match brought the card BACK)
SHIE v SheSaro: 4/5
AJ v KO: 3.75/5
Mahal v Nakamura: 2.5/5
Fatal Four Way: 4.75/5 (would have been 5 in his eyes if not for the stretcher spot. Uhhhh, Dave? The crowd needed a breather. That's how you give it to them. If this took place in NJPW, it would have been 9 stars.)

(I know his ratings are meaningless, but they're fun.)

[chadizzy1]

Originally Posted by BotheU2Fan

Meltz ratings for NXT and SummerSlam

Almas v Gargano: 4.25/5
Sanity v AOP: 3.75/5
Black v Itami: 4.25/5
Asuka v Ember: 4.5/5
McIntyre v Roode: 4.25/5

Miztourage v JJ & Hardy's: 2/5
Neville v Tozawa: 3.5/5
Usos v New Day: 4/5

Cena v Corbin: 2/5
Natty v Naomi: 3/5
Cass v Show: 1/5 (GENEROUS)
Orton v Rusev: No rating
Banks v Bliss: 3/5
Finn v Bray: 2.75/5 (fucking ridiculous. This match brought the card BACK)
SHIE v SheSaro: 4/5
AJ v KO: 3.75/5
Mahal v Nakamura: 2.5/5
Fatal Four Way: 4.75/5 (would have been 5 in his eyes if not for the stretcher spot. Uhhhh, Dave? The crowd needed a breather. That's how you give it to them. If this took place in NJPW, it would have been 9 stars.)

(I know his ratings are meaningless, but they're fun.)

Average 4.2 for Takeover

Average 2.78 for SummerSlam

I think Takeover was around a 4, it was a fantastic show. SummerSlam probably around a 3 to 3.25. So I think he was a little low on SummerSlam, but pretty accurate on Takeover.

[Roose13]

Originally Posted by BotheU2Fan

Meltz ratings for NXT and SummerSlam

Almas v Gargano: 4.25/5
Sanity v AOP: 3.75/5
Black v Itami: 4.25/5
Asuka v Ember: 4.5/5
McIntyre v Roode: 4.25/5

Miztourage v JJ & Hardy's: 2/5
Neville v Tozawa: 3.5/5
Usos v New Day: 4/5

Cena v Corbin: 2/5
Natty v Naomi: 3/5
Cass v Show: 1/5 (GENEROUS)
Orton v Rusev: No rating
Banks v Bliss: 3/5
Finn v Bray: 2.75/5 (fucking ridiculous. This match brought the card BACK)
SHIE v SheSaro: 4/5
AJ v KO: 3.75/5
Mahal v Nakamura: 2.5/5
Fatal Four Way: 4.75/5 (would have been 5 in his eyes if not for the stretcher spot. Uhhhh, Dave? The crowd needed a breather. That's how you give it to them. If this took place in NJPW, it would have been 9 stars.)

(I know his ratings are meaningless, but they're fun.)

Agreed. Meltzer is a boob.

[chadizzy1]

So Asuka apparently relinquished her title today.

I guess it's a smart movie. She can be undefeated in NXT and is now free to move up to the main roster

[Klize17]

Originally Posted by chadizzy1

So Asuka apparently relinquished her title today.

I guess it's a smart movie. She can be undefeated in NXT and is now free to move up to the main roster

She has a broken collarbone out 6-8 weeks. Makes sense to do it now

[DoDaFoo]

Originally Posted by chadizzy1

So Asuka apparently relinquished her title today.

I guess it's a smart movie. She can be undefeated in NXT and is now free to move up to the main roster

I'm not a big fan of the whole undefeated thing (I hated Taker's WM streak) and Asuka being undefeated her entire time in NXT just annoyed me. I really hate seeing her leave without ever losing her title. The whole point is to put someone else over when you move on. I get that she's injured, but if they were moving her up they should have had Moon beat her at Takeover, or at the very least drop the title in a Triple Threat without taking the pin fall.

[chadizzy1]

http://www.wrestlinginc.com/wi/news/...-championship/

"Dave Meltzer reported on the latest edition of Wrestling Observer Radio that WWE has discussed having the winner of the Mae Young Classic to be crowned the new NXT Women's Champion. The finals take place live from Las Vegas on Tuesday, September 12th at 10pm EST after SmackDown goes off the air that night. Spoilers on the finals are here (http://www.wrestlinginc.com/wi/news/...young-classic/)

Asuka is heading to the main roster, as NXT General Manager William Regal said that he is negotiating with RAW and SmackDown to bring her to one of those brands. Asuka is expected to be out of action with the injury for 6-8 weeks."

I could see Kairi Sane winning the tournament, from the beginning I could tell she was a favorite. But it seems kinda unfair to give the belt to the winner of the tournament instead of someone in NXT.

Would be nice to see a #1 contender in NXT after a battle royal or something face the winner of the Mae Young tournament.

[chadizzy1]

WWE Looking To Repackage Luke Harper and Erick Rowan

http://www.pwmania.com/wwe-looking-t...nd-erick-rowan

"On a recent edition of The Sheet Podcast, Ryan Satin of Pro Wrestling Sheet said that WWE is looking to repackage both Harper and Rowan with new personas. It was noted that these plans aren’t 100%, and it is unclear if both men will receive their own gimmick, but the assumption is they will be reforming their partnership with something new.

The reason for this potential change is because WWE officials want to distance the two from Bray Wyatt. The belief is fans still see them and think of Wyatt.

During their absence, Harper and Rowan have continued to work live events and dark matches. Before SmackDown LIVE last week, Harper teamed with Sami Zayn and Tye Dillinger in a victory over Mike Kanellis and The Ascension."

[snake911]

Originally Posted by BotheU2Fan

Meltz ratings for NXT and SummerSlam

Almas v Gargano: 4.25/5
Sanity v AOP: 3.75/5
Black v Itami: 4.25/5
Asuka v Ember: 4.5/5
McIntyre v Roode: 4.25/5

Miztourage v JJ & Hardy's: 2/5
Neville v Tozawa: 3.5/5
Usos v New Day: 4/5

Cena v Corbin: 2/5
Natty v Naomi: 3/5
Cass v Show: 1/5 (GENEROUS)
Orton v Rusev: No rating
Banks v Bliss: 3/5
Finn v Bray: 2.75/5 (fucking ridiculous. This match brought the card BACK)
SHIE v SheSaro: 4/5
AJ v KO: 3.75/5
Mahal v Nakamura: 2.5/5
Fatal Four Way: 4.75/5 (would have been 5 in his eyes if not for the stretcher spot. Uhhhh, Dave? The crowd needed a breather. That's how you give it to them. If this took place in NJPW, it would have been 9 stars.)

(I know his ratings are meaningless, but they're fun.)

Both deserve better ratings. Mini-shield v SheSaro was spectacular, my favorite match of the night. Main event was super entertaining as well, love how much the kept up the Brock v Strowman with other 2 and 3 person combos sprinkled in throughout. Strowman continues to be an absolute monster, and hes great in the role. Cant wait for him and Brock in a HiaC at some point.

[chadizzy1]

Wow, Jeff Hardy. That was a nice surprise.

[CrashDMB237]

Cena is one of the best of all time. If you're still whining about him, you're a moron. This is fucking fantastic.

[chadizzy1]

That Reigns/Cena promo is probably one of the best things I've seen on any WWE show all year.

That was straight fire. Fourth wall and kayfabe took a hit tonight!

[CrashDMB237]

The real question is why the hell are they wasting this on No Mercy? That's a Mania main event.

[BotheLaneFan]

Originally Posted by CrashDMB237

The real question is why the hell are they wasting this on No Mercy? That's a Mania main event.

Because they want me to be happy.

[jayman414]

Originally Posted by chadizzy1

That Reigns/Cena promo is probably one of the best things I've seen on any WWE show all year.

That was straight fire. Fourth wall and kayfabe took a hit tonight!

After watching the segment this morning, that was my biggest question, how much of this was true feelings/thoughts vs predetermined script. I got done watching that and was like shiiiiiit those two just said some real fire at each other.

[BotheLaneFan]

Joe out for a month. Woods probably out a lot longer. Both with knee injuries.

[AndySlash]

Originally Posted by jayman414

After watching the segment this morning, that was my biggest question, how much of this was true feelings/thoughts vs predetermined script. I got done watching that and was like shiiiiiit those two just said some real fire at each other.

imo, it was too much script. i was really disappointed by the segment. insider shit can work but it was way too forced here and very clearly spelled out as opposed to feeling spontaneous/anything can happen/'true' feelings coming out. roman looked a fool and cena didn't make any of it better when he could and should have. and you can say he tried, calling out roman on stalling and whatnot, but roman isn't the rock, and he needed to do more than just call him out on it, like giving him something else to work with, to help roman lift the segment instead of standing there looking like a chump. i mean, that's on roman, too, obviously, but cena kind of sandbagged him there. the crowd generally sucked for this, too.

i wanted to like it, i really did. but i was just disappointed. it wasn't bad by any stretch, but it was a let down given who was in there and that this is a match people do want to see. they got time yet, though, so that's good. plus, seeds for cena/taker were planted, should that be a remote possibility.

[CrashDMB237]

Originally Posted by AndySlash

imo, it was too much script. i was really disappointed by the segment. insider shit can work but it was way too forced here and very clearly spelled out as opposed to feeling spontaneous/anything can happen/'true' feelings coming out. roman looked a fool and cena didn't make any of it better when he could and should have. and you can say he tried, calling out roman on stalling and whatnot, but roman isn't the rock, and he needed to do more than just call him out on it, like giving him something else to work with, to help roman lift the segment instead of standing there looking like a chump. i mean, that's on roman, too, obviously, but cena kind of sandbagged him there. the crowd generally sucked for this, too.

i wanted to like it, i really did. but i was just disappointed. it wasn't bad by any stretch, but it was a let down given who was in there and that this is a match people do want to see. they got time yet, though, so that's good. plus, seeds for cena/taker were planted, should that be a remote possibility.

I'm not too sure that was all scripted, let alone TOO scripted...