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Old 01-10-2018, 01:04 PM   #18331
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Re: The MLB Thread

maybe just don't let any players in if you are going to indict people with no evidence
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    Ramirez was better than Thome and Rolen, if you don't want to vote for Ramirez because of steroids then don't vote for Clemens and Bonds for the same reason, also thinking there is no chance Thome and Rolen were on steroids is laughable
    Yeah, to Graham's point - Ramirez had multiple failed tests while playing. Clemens and Bonds had none. Hence writers voting for Thome, Rolen, Clemens, and Bonds... but not Ramirez.
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    Old 01-10-2018, 01:12 PM   #18333
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    Bonds and Clemens now not steroid guys, makes sense
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    Old 01-10-2018, 01:14 PM   #18334
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    Bonds and Clemens now not steroid guys, makes sense
    Literally nobody said that. What people are saying is that they never failed a steroids test during their career - which Ramirez did, multiple times.

    It's widely regarded that both Clemens and Bonds used PEDs, however they never failed a test while playing.
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    Old 01-10-2018, 01:25 PM   #18335
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    .... plus the whole conversation about them being HOF caliber prior to all the allegations yadda yadda
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    Old 01-10-2018, 01:26 PM   #18336
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    .... plus the whole conversation about them being HOF caliber prior to all the allegations yadda yadda

    Bonds, Griffey Jr, and Manny are probably the top 3 swings I've ever seen
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    Old 01-11-2018, 05:30 AM   #18337
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    Literally nobody said that. What people are saying is that they never failed a steroids test during their career - which Ramirez did, multiple times.

    It's widely regarded that both Clemens and Bonds used PEDs, however they never failed a test while playing.


    This really is the whole story here.
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    Old 01-11-2018, 05:38 AM   #18338
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    Bonds, Griffey Jr, and Manny are probably the top 3 swings I've ever seen
    Maybe not all time but I always thought Robinson Cano had a silky smooth swing as well.
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    Old 01-11-2018, 05:47 AM   #18339
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    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/10/s...l-of-fame.html
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    Old 01-11-2018, 02:18 PM   #18340
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    March 29th can't come soon enough:

    http://www.12up.com/posts/5944009-ml...pn?a_aid=40920
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    Old 01-11-2018, 02:32 PM   #18341
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    Just took it off the other day.
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    Old 01-11-2018, 03:08 PM   #18342
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    Old 01-19-2018, 10:06 AM   #18343
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    20-second pitch clock forthcoming?

    https://theathletic.com//215483/2018.../?redirected=1
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    Old 01-19-2018, 12:29 PM   #18344
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    Just about anything to speed the game up I am all for!
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    Old 01-19-2018, 07:46 PM   #18345
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    anyone see the Halladay autopsy report? Morphine and amphetemine in his system.
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    Old 01-19-2018, 09:38 PM   #18346
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    anyone see the Halladay autopsy report? Morphine and amphetemine in his system.
    Yeah, I just saw that. Sad as hell.
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    Old 01-20-2018, 04:41 AM   #18347
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    anyone see the Halladay autopsy report? Morphine and amphetemine in his system.
    Dumbass...
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    Old 01-20-2018, 08:46 AM   #18348
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    Dumbass...


    he could have easily killed other people. Thankfully for his family he didn’t go down as a murderer too.
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    Old 01-24-2018, 09:42 AM   #18349
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    HOF announcements today. Next couple days are going to be a shit show in the MLB news.

    Only shoe-in's are Chipper & Vlad I think
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    Old 01-24-2018, 10:45 AM   #18350
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    HOF announcements today. Next couple days are going to be a shit show in the MLB news.

    Only shoe-in's are Chipper & Vlad I think
    i would think Thome is more of a lock than Vlad
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    Old 01-24-2018, 10:48 AM   #18351
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    Yeah Chipper, Thome and Vlad are in for sure. Maybe Hoffman too. I think Edgar misses again.
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    Old 01-24-2018, 11:04 AM   #18352
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    Yeah Chipper, Thome and Vlad are in for sure. Maybe Hoffman too. I think Edgar misses again.
    Thome isn't a shoe in and shouldn't be. He was a roid monkey too. If you allow him in then after put Bonds and crew in

    Forgot about Hoffman. He'll be a fringe inductee
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    Thome isn't a shoe in and shouldn't be. He was a roid monkey too. If you allow him in then after put Bonds and crew in

    Forgot about Hoffman. He'll be a fringe inductee
    Do you think Ortiz will be a shoe in?
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    Thome isn't a shoe in and shouldn't be. He was a roid monkey too. If you allow him in then after put Bonds and crew in

    Forgot about Hoffman. He'll be a fringe inductee
    I'm looking at the tracker. He only needs to be on 50% of the remaining ballots to make it in. He's the clear #2 here.
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    i would think Thome is more of a lock than Vlad
    Disagree w/ this.
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    Old 01-24-2018, 11:27 AM   #18356
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    Do you think Ortiz will be a shoe in?

    He better be, seriously, there has been a DH for what .. 50 years?
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    And I think Bonds and Clemons all make it in. They have 4 years left.
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    He better be, seriously, there has been a DH for what .. 50 years?
    I'm talking about steroids more than position. Brohan is saying you have to let Bonds in if Thome gets in. Curious what he thinks about Ortiz who most believe will get in, but is a more confirmed roider.
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    I'm talking about steroids more than position. Brohan is saying you have to let Bonds in if Thome gets in. Curious what he thinks about Ortiz who most believe will get in, but is a more confirmed roider.

    When was this confirmed?
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