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Old 01-10-2018, 05:04 PM   #18331
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maybe just don't let any players in if you are going to indict people with no evidence
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  • Old 01-10-2018, 05:09 PM   #18332
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    Ramirez was better than Thome and Rolen, if you don't want to vote for Ramirez because of steroids then don't vote for Clemens and Bonds for the same reason, also thinking there is no chance Thome and Rolen were on steroids is laughable
    Yeah, to Graham's point - Ramirez had multiple failed tests while playing. Clemens and Bonds had none. Hence writers voting for Thome, Rolen, Clemens, and Bonds... but not Ramirez.
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    Old 01-10-2018, 05:12 PM   #18333
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    Bonds and Clemens now not steroid guys, makes sense
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    Old 01-10-2018, 05:14 PM   #18334
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    Bonds and Clemens now not steroid guys, makes sense
    Literally nobody said that. What people are saying is that they never failed a steroids test during their career - which Ramirez did, multiple times.

    It's widely regarded that both Clemens and Bonds used PEDs, however they never failed a test while playing.
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    Old 01-10-2018, 05:25 PM   #18335
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    .... plus the whole conversation about them being HOF caliber prior to all the allegations yadda yadda
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    Old 01-10-2018, 05:26 PM   #18336
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    .... plus the whole conversation about them being HOF caliber prior to all the allegations yadda yadda

    Bonds, Griffey Jr, and Manny are probably the top 3 swings I've ever seen
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    Old 01-11-2018, 09:30 AM   #18337
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    Literally nobody said that. What people are saying is that they never failed a steroids test during their career - which Ramirez did, multiple times.

    It's widely regarded that both Clemens and Bonds used PEDs, however they never failed a test while playing.


    This really is the whole story here.
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    Old 01-11-2018, 09:38 AM   #18338
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    Bonds, Griffey Jr, and Manny are probably the top 3 swings I've ever seen
    Maybe not all time but I always thought Robinson Cano had a silky smooth swing as well.
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    Old 01-11-2018, 09:47 AM   #18339
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    Re: The MLB Thread

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/10/s...l-of-fame.html
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    Old 01-11-2018, 06:18 PM   #18340
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    March 29th can't come soon enough:

    http://www.12up.com/posts/5944009-ml...pn?a_aid=40920
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    Old 01-11-2018, 06:32 PM   #18341
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    Just took it off the other day.
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