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Old 08-17-2017, 10:16 AM   #40651
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the canceled elections will be worse
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    obama siding with nazis was definitely bad for our image
    Nope, but he was cozy with Bill Ayers (is what I'd say if I was a right wingnut)
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    Old 08-17-2017, 10:17 AM   #40653
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    the canceled elections will be worse
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    the canceled elections will be worse
    Only for Dems. GOP will be lock-step behind him, because they're cucks

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.e1e62fbb2a36
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    Old 08-17-2017, 10:22 AM   #40655
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    Surprised some people want to keep up Confederate statues, i.e., "Civil War participation trophies"

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    And listen, I'm as ardently against the extreme left as any other conservative libertarian can be. I despise the hyper PC/SJW stuff almost to a fault.

    But we are talking about Mother. Fucking. NAZIS. Like others have said many times, it's quite literally the one thing all of us should be able to agree on.
    I'm surprised there are people, our president included, who are equivocating about this. There's no need or no reason for a gray area.

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    Old 08-17-2017, 10:23 AM   #40656
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    Only for Dems. GOP will be lock-step behind him, because they're cucks

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.e1e62fbb2a36
    they like winning and don't want people being mean to trump with another election. it makes sense
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    Old 08-17-2017, 10:27 AM   #40657
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    "Do Nothing" President does not fit Trump at all. Calvin Coolidge was a do-nothing President. He sat on his porch in a rocking chair and never did anything. He was public about his opinion that the President should do nothing of import. The most he ever did was sign a couple vetoes and say to Congress "hey come on guys, let's not go and change anything, life is good."



    THAT is a do-nothing President.




    Trump is a "Tried and Failed" President. Cannot lump him in with the seat-warmer Presidents at all.
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    Old 08-17-2017, 10:30 AM   #40658
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    The one distinction I think some righties (not really in here, just in general) are missing is destruction vs not being displayed out in parks and shit.

    The statues should not be destroyed, and I have no problem with the (at least one) person I saw arrested for tearing down the Lee one that crumpled under it's own weight. Save them, keep them, put them in a confederate or civil war museum, I don't care. But I don't think these are people we should put on literal pedestals out in the open like they are something we should be prideful about.

    That's the different I think people miss. (assuming most libs agree with me, which I think is the case).
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    Trump hasn't done anything as comparatively awful as a lot of other presidents have.
    what a tone deaf opinion.
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    Old 08-17-2017, 10:31 AM   #40660
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    Concerned citizen with awareness of history provides context to local confederate statue.

    http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewir...ederate-statue
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    Old 08-17-2017, 10:31 AM   #40661
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    William Henry Harrison bottom of the list.

    Dude's major accomplishment was dying of pneumonia weeks after giving a four-hour inauguration speech in the rain to prove what a bad ass he was.
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    Old 08-17-2017, 10:32 AM   #40662
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    The one distinction I think some righties (not really in here, just in general) are missing is destruction vs not being displayed out in parks and shit.

    The statues should not be destroyed, and I have no problem with the (at least one) person I saw arrested for tearing down the Lee one that crumpled under it's own weight. Save them, keep them, put them in a confederate or civil war museum, I don't care. But I don't think these are people we should put on literal pedestals out in the open like they are something we should be prideful about.

    That's the different I think people miss. (assuming most libs agree with me, which I think is the case).
    I definitely agree with this.

    I don't think we should ignore that history. I just don't think we should celebrate it.

    I'm stealing this from a tweet I saw, but if you think taking down those statues erases the legacy of the Civil War, try getting a cab with your African-American friends some time.
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    Jesus, what in the fuck

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/16/u...ttesville.html

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    The email forwarded by John Dowd, who is leading the president’s legal team, painted the Confederate general Robert E. Lee in glowing terms and equated the South’s rebellion to that of the American Revolution against England. Its subject line — “The Information that Validates President Trump on Charlottesville” — was a reference to comments Mr. Trump made earlier this week in the aftermath of protests in the Virginia college town.

    “You cannot be against General Lee and be for General Washington,” the email reads, “there literally is no difference between the two men.”

    Mr. Dowd received the email on Tuesday night and forwarded it on Wednesday morning to more than two dozen recipients, including a senior official at the Department of Homeland Security, The Wall Street Journal editorial page and journalists at Fox News and The Washington Times.

    “You’re sticking your nose in my personal email?” Mr. Dowd told The Times in a brief telephone interview. “People send me things. I forward them.” He then hung up. ()

    Mr. Almon’s email said that Black Lives Matter, a group that formed to protest the use of force by police against African-Americans, is being directed by terrorists. Mr. Almon blamed the group for deadly violence against police last year in Texas and Louisiana.

    Mr. Almon, who is black, said in his email to Mr. Dowd that the protesters should “go back to the ghettos and do raise their children and rebuild places like Detroit.”
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    Old 08-17-2017, 10:39 AM   #40664
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    Wait, so BLM blocking traffic is terrorism but a chunk of country literally fighting a war against the gov't is A-Ok? For fuck's sake...
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    Old 08-17-2017, 10:40 AM   #40665
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    Wait, so BLM blocking traffic is terrorism but a chunk of country literally fighting a war against the gov't is A-Ok? For fuck's sake...
    one of those groups is black, though
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    Old 08-17-2017, 10:45 AM   #40666
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    I definitely agree with this.

    I don't think we should ignore that history. I just don't think we should celebrate it.

    I'm stealing this from a tweet I saw, but if you think taking down those statues erases the legacy of the Civil War, try getting a cab with your African-American friends some time.
    Or, you know, crack a book.

    Statues aren't the best vessels of history.
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    Old 08-17-2017, 10:54 AM   #40667
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    The one distinction I think some righties (not really in here, just in general) are missing is destruction vs not being displayed out in parks and shit.

    The statues should not be destroyed, and I have no problem with the (at least one) person I saw arrested for tearing down the Lee one that crumpled under it's own weight. Save them, keep them, put them in a confederate or civil war museum, I don't care. But I don't think these are people we should put on literal pedestals out in the open like they are something we should be prideful about.

    That's the different I think people miss. (assuming most libs agree with me, which I think is the case).
    Agreed.

    Some people can't see to comprehend that statues and monuments are celebratory/honorary in their nature. There is no reason we need to be celebrating people who so profoundly backed something like slavery.

    That's not erasing history, that's just taking down shit that celebrates it and putting it where it belongs: in a museum.
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    Old 08-17-2017, 10:59 AM   #40668
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    Vox article put the comparisons of Lee to Jefferson/Washington well:

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    Jefferson Davis, Robert E. Lee, and the other politicians and generals who served the Confederate States of America aren’t noteworthy historical figures who also happened to benefit from the institution of slavery. They are historical figures who are noteworthy almost exclusively because they led an insurrection against the United States of America, an insurrection whose primary purpose was to perpetuate slavery.

    Owning human chattel — and offering intellectual and political defenses of the institution of American slavery — is an important and dishonorable part of Thomas Jefferson’s legacy. But it’s the entirety of Davis’s legacy.
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    Old 08-17-2017, 11:02 AM   #40669
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    Let's put up Obama statues in their place.
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    Got no problem with Obama statues. Obviously not a fan at all but first biracial prez is a big thing obviously
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    Got no problem with Obama statues. Obviously not a fan at all but first biracial prez is a big thing obviously
    thats a pretty progressive thought
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    Let's put up Obama statues in their place.
    Yeah

    He could be smoking a Kool Menthol 100 while holding up a Quaran ?
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    Why would he be holding up a Quran?
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    Old 08-17-2017, 11:13 AM   #40674
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    Cuz he's from Kenya, duh.
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    any statue with obama would have to have biden too
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    any statue with obama would have to have biden too
    https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media...1ackhjekfw.jpg
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    is tillerson back from vacation yet?
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    Got no problem with Obama statues. Obviously not a fan at all but first biracial prez is a big thing obviously


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    Are you trying to make this sound awesome? Because it's working.

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    Dude is so minted he's changing the flavor of that ice cream just by eating it.
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    Are you trying to make this sound awesome? Because it's working.





    Dude is so minted he's changing the flavor of that ice cream just by eating it.
    Biden is so cool.
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    Old 08-17-2017, 11:42 AM   #40680
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    My vote is for this image to be turned into a statue:

    http://blogs.denverpost.com/beer/fil...EHOUSEBEER.jpg

    Best statue ever!
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