First Time Saying This

[TheLastPig]

Phish also doesn’t lean so heavily on their post 09 stuff like dmb does.

[drgonzotx]

Originally Posted by ScottCavBBQ

I am usually the guy defending this band at all costs. been going to shows since 1994, tonight in clarkston was show 53. i am the guy who finds something good about every album, i know times change, the band changes and evolves. every show ive been at i have found to be still exciting and entertaining. i enjoy hearing the classics with some oddball songs i havent seen in a long time or not at all sprinkled in. once again, have been able to find the good and the positive in everything this band has done. always thought my hometown venue was very underrated and got great shows. they have played there at least half the years in my 25 years seeing this band. tonight is the first time i am walking away feeling let down. i dig buddy, i once again am alright with the band being different than it was, but for the first time im walking away feeling like i didnt see anything special, and ive never felt this way. i like cant stop in its new form and saw that tonight for the first time, and my first sugar will since 2004 deer creek but other than that, it was the same old stuff ive seen forever, and cant stop isnt that great and sugar will is nowhere near what it was with roi, and the show ends at 10:45 instead of 11:00? just really for the first time feeling like the show was mailed in. so much, too much, nancies, stay, ddtw...just all the same stuff ive seen so many times. an astb that hasnt changed at all in years. just really let down.

First time that I felt that way at Gorge last year...that may have been my last show tbh

[jglizaze]

Originally Posted by drgonzotx

First time that I felt that way at Gorge last year...that may have been my last show tbh

I did all 3 nights at the gorge but didn't feel that way. Thought the shows were great. The crowd was 100x better than Colorado and the band seemed like they appreciated it.

[jglizaze]

Originally Posted by kingchrisII

The sets are a bit weak, but the performances are fantastic. The band sounds great. I hope to God Boyd never comes back, because him leaving was pure addition by subtraction.

He sounded awful for years before being canned.

The years when boyd was present physically but not mentally we're there worst years imo. I love where the band is now. Can't wait to see them at the gorge.

[TwoStep2888]

Originally Posted by jglizaze

The years when boyd was present physically but not mentally we're there worst years imo. I love where the band is now. Can't wait to see them at the gorge.

yeah those last few Boyd years were dire, I think 4.0 is a lot of fun

[ToySoldier#34]

Originally Posted by TheLastPig

Phish also doesn’t lean so heavily on their post 09 stuff like dmb does.

Why not?

[beachball]

I for one have never been more excited to see the band because...

1) Boyd is gone and anyone that doesn't think he has been an ear cancer for years is lying to themselves... and the allegations didn't help. good riddance.
2) I've been waiting for this band to have a member like buddy - an organ-heavy synth/keys player. Butch was too generic with no personality. Buddy really amps up the funk elements and has re-energized the band and sound imo.
3) They are still supporting their #1 album and its damn solid effort and excited to hear some of those newer song. Come Tomorrow is not big 3 quality but its definitely on par with Big Whiskey and Away From The World - beats Big Whiskey imo - love a lot of those songs live, but that album just didn't do it for me.
4) They are putting some great songs into rotation and the core songs they are regularly playing are sounding great.

[Bmwm3oz]

The sound is predictable. Almost zero improv.

I guess if you’re into that, then it would be easy to be happy with the band.

[beachball]

this is my first time saying this:

why do I beg like a child for your candy?

[TheLastPig]

Originally Posted by ToySoldier#34

Why not?

Because they know what their fans want to hear. There’s still some in rotation, but it’s not heavy. And they’re still continuing to do new stuff as well which has been well received for the most part.

[WhoDidIt?]

Originally Posted by ToySoldier#34

LIOG - organ is awful

They’re ruining LIOG with an organ . . . . What the fuck

Also, why should I spend 250$ for a show and have to go into it with low expectations to have a good time? That’s the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard.

[ToySoldier#34]

Originally Posted by WhoDidIt?

They’re ruining LIOG with an organ . . . . What the fuck

Also, why should I spend 250$ for a show and have to go into it with low expectations to have a good time? That’s the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard.

It just really doesn't work on LIOG and I don't know how he doesn't hear that

As for the other part I'm not the one saying go in with low expectations, expect whatever you want, I go in with basically no expectations

[ToySoldier#34]

Originally Posted by TheLastPig

Because they know what their fans want to hear. There’s still some in rotation, but it’s not heavy. And they’re still continuing to do new stuff as well which has been well received for the most part.

That's cool, what they do seems to work for their fans

[BruceW]

Originally Posted by ToySoldier#34

It just really doesn't work on LIOG and I don't know how he doesn't hear that



As for the other part I'm not the one saying go in with low expectations, expect whatever you want, I go in with basically no expectations

Great overall post

[TwoStep2888]

go in with whatever expectations you want but don't come crying to me when they play like a middle-aged nostalgia act because that's what they are

[ToySoldier#34]

Originally Posted by TwoStep2888

go in with whatever expectations you want but don't come crying to me when they play like a middle-aged nostalgia act because that's what they are

My post show complaints are about everything other than the music 99% of the time, like having beer dropped on me and taking over two hours to get out of the parking lot at the last one

[pbroderi86]

Dave is starting an AC/DC cover band. No summer tour 2020

[smudge1]

Originally Posted by TwoStep2888

go in with whatever expectations you want but don't come crying to me when they play like a middle-aged nostalgia act because that's what they are

I’ve said this for years.
Wait until they bust out a full band Bluewater at some random State Fair.

[dontdrink36]

Originally Posted by TwoStep2888

go in with whatever expectations you want but don't come crying to me when they play like a middle-aged nostalgia act because that's what they are

They are not the bold. Many here want them to be but they aren't that yet. If they were the sets would be much more older songs and classics. Instead it's mostly newer and non classics.

[smudge1]

Originally Posted by dontdrink36

They are not the bold. Many here want them to be but they aren't that yet. If they were the sets would be much more older songs and classics. Instead it's mostly newer and non classics.

I agree with this post.
But....are The Rolling Stones considered a nostalgia act?

[TwoStep2888]

idk I guess it depends how you define a nostalgia act but their peak popularity was like 20 years ago

[dontdrink36]

Originally Posted by smudge1

I agree with this post.
But....are The Rolling Stones considered a nostalgia act?

Do their shows not include mostly hits? Do they still release new music and have those songs make up ~30% of sets and a good chunk of the other newer lesser loved material?

I'm asking for real as I do not know.

[dontdrink36]

Originally Posted by TwoStep2888

idk I guess it depends how you define a nostalgia act but their peak popularity was like 20 years ago

I define it as a band who plays primarily or exclusively hits/classics and doesn't attempt much new music. Or an old band on a comeback tour after years apart. DMB is neither of those.

[Antiramie]

They just played a combined 23 singles + covers during a 2 night stand at one of their biggest "destination venues". If they're not considered a nostalgia act yet, they're right on that cusp.

[jglizaze]

What is a nostalgia act? Is it supposed to be an insult? Didn't backread to see if it was defined.

[jglizaze]

Originally Posted by TwoStep2888

idk I guess it depends how you define a nostalgia act but their peak popularity was like 20 years ago

So how do you define a nostalgia act then? Kinda sounds like you're trying to just throw an insult I'm guessing because they aren't as popular now? Do you really care about how popular your favorite band is to everyone else? Or is this about something else?

[ToySoldier#34]

Originally Posted by smudge1

I’ve said this for years.
Wait until they bust out a full band Bluewater at some random State Fair.

You'll probably be saying this for a lot of years

[dontdrink36]

Originally Posted by Antiramie

They just played a combined 23 singles + covers during a 2 night stand at one of their biggest "destination venues". If they're not considered a nostalgia act yet, they're right on that cusp.

Playing singles is fine and normal for any band. DMB has tons of them. They still write and heavily play new music and "deep cuts" from throughout their history. They are just basically the same ones they've played for years and have grown stale for many hear.

For them to be considered a nostalgia act I'd say they would have to be no longer writing/playing new music and the sets would be even more stagnant,like a rotation of ~40 songs that were 90's heavy and pretty much singles from albums beyond that.

They aren't doing that or really anything close. I think many hear would like them to be a full on nostalgia act. The SPAC sets prove to me they are far off from that distinction. Look at the list of classics that are tour "regulars" that weren't played. If they were going for nostalgia those songs get played damn near every night.

Originally Posted by jglizaze

What is a nostalgia act? Is it supposed to be an insult? Didn't backread to see if it was defined.

I gave my definition literally two posts above yours. It's not an insult. It's just not a distinction current dmb warrants.

[Antiramie]

Originally Posted by dontdrink36

Playing singles is fine and normal for any band. DMB has tons of them. They still write and heavily play new music and "deep cuts" from throughout their history. They are just basically the same ones they've played for years and have grown stale for many hear.

For them to be considered a nostalgia act I'd say they would have to be no longer writing/playing new music and the sets would be even more stagnant,like a rotation of ~40 songs that were 90's heavy and pretty much singles from albums beyond that.

They aren't doing that or really anything close. I think many hear would like them to be a full on nostalgia act. The SPAC sets prove to me they are far off from that distinction. Look at the list of classics that are tour "regulars" that weren't played. If they were going for nostalgia those songs get played damn near every night.




I gave my definition literally two posts above yours. It's not an insult. It's just not a distinction current dmb warrants.

Again, I don't think they're one at the moment, but they're trending in that direction. Sets are definitely getting less diverse every subsequent year.

[dontdrink36]

Originally Posted by Antiramie

Again, I don't think they're one at the moment, but they're trending in that direction. Sets are definitely getting less diverse every subsequent year.

Every band that has been around as long as DMB has is either nostalgia or trending towards one. Though I doubt DMB every truly becomes one. I think they hang it up before Dave decides to play sets that would warrant the nostalgia distinction.