***Official Camden, NJ 2010 Thread***

[10-31]

Originally Posted by spoot388

outside of Bartender, #41, Seek Up, Jimi, Crush, LIOG, Dreaming Tree, and Two Step, they don't do extended jams period, let alone from a "crappy" song. its not like every amazing song is 15+ minutes and the "crappy" songs stay at 5 minutes. they play great songs that are short too. only 8 out of their 100+ songs routinely break 15 minutes.



and now that i think about it, there is an example of a bad song being jammed out. WH 8 Vol 2, Angel with Eric Krasno. song time is a little over 12 minutes, with a great bluesy solo by Krasno. the song blows, but the jam is good. and if you want to go shorter, the 7 minute Mother Father from the same disk features Carlos Santana with a nice little jam at the end. those 2 songs keep their familiar backing sound during the jams, but they weren't extended long enough to really break away from it. if those songs were pushed to a half hour or more, they would certainly have a much different sound during the jam, and there is no reason not to think that the quality of the jam would diminish.

Dont forget LitHoG that is i think routinely played out at least 10 minutes.

Which IMHO I hated LitHoG studio release. awful song lacked anything worthwhile. But when they add the jam and go 10-12 minutes with it, it is actually respectable. I now enjoy that song a whole lot more due to its extension.


I hope to be hitting this gig a second year in a row

Also I unno if this is true, but dont they play out recently alot when they actually get around to playing it?

furthermore i would consider a 10 minute version of a 4-5 minute song a jam. for example YMDT plays alot of the time 8- to what 10 or so minutes . . .. and it sounds more like a jam than an actual studio release .. . ..... . . .

[spoot388]

Originally Posted by 10-31

Dont forget LitHoG that is i think routinely played out at least 10 minutes.

Which IMHO I hated LitHoG studio release. awful song lacked anything worthwhile. But when they add the jam and go 10-12 minutes with it, it is actually respectable. I now enjoy that song a whole lot more due to its extension.


I hope to be hitting this gig a second year in a row

Also I unno if this is true, but dont they play out recently alot when they actually get around to playing it?

furthermore i would consider a 10 minute version of a 4-5 minute song a jam. for example YMDT plays alot of the time 8- to what 10 or so minutes . . .. and it sounds more like a jam than an actual studio release .. . ..... . . .

i was talking about the LOOOONG songs. they don't have that many that break 15 minutes.


as for Recently, in 08, the few times it was played, it was short (3 minutes). then the few times in 09 it was played it was 8 minutes. so who knows.

[crashintonickdm]

i wouldnt mind if they took 7 minutes off #41. in fact, i hope they do it.

[spoot388]

same here. it was nice in 08 when it was like 12 minutes. its even worse when the song is towards the end of the set because then you know there's only going to be like 2 more songs because that takes up so much time.

[JSA6916]

looking for opinions on best place to stay for Camden. I am looking to fly into Philly and not rent a car, so I need to plan a trip around not using a rental car, and not having to spend a ton on public trans. Can anyone help me out?

Also looking for a single reserve for both nights if anyone can help me out.

[#41Mikenj]

Just got 2 lawns from Live Nation for 80 bucks...No service fees!!!! I think its for the month of June...

[BLaCerra28]

Originally Posted by crashintonickdm

i wouldnt mind if they took 7 minutes off #41. in fact, i hope they do it.

41 is way too long IMO. And I've heard it so many times. I actually went out and smoked last year during the jam. It just so routine now.

[10-31]

yea, i would prefer a long warehouse to replace it, or a minute or two added to YMDT . .. .

how did you not get service fees? And will this show sell out?

[mYeAgZ55]

YES this show will sell out.

[10-31]

Originally Posted by mYeAgZ55

YES this show will sell out.

Well i meant to say I have a good week or two before it will right?

Its not like I have to buy my tickets today ???

[firedancer811]

Originally Posted by JSA6916

looking for opinions on best place to stay for Camden. I am looking to fly into Philly and not rent a car, so I need to plan a trip around not using a rental car, and not having to spend a ton on public trans. Can anyone help me out?

Also looking for a single reserve for both nights if anyone can help me out.

i have a single, sec 202 row r if you want it- face + fees

[10-31]

So is there gonna be an ants tailgate for this show?, and if so which lot is it gonna be in?

[onesweetworld41]

Originally Posted by 10-31

So is there gonna be an ants tailgate for this show?, and if so which lot is it gonna be in?

I haven't been to Camden since 02 (I was 16) but I may swing down for the 2 shows from western pa... I'm hoping there's ants because I may go solo with the gf in Spain for the week...

[jdgotta#40git]

U guys know where the band is staying? I'm looking to stalk and get my guitar signed.

[bonf71]

Originally Posted by jdgotta#40git

U guys know where the band is staying? I'm looking to stalk and get my guitar signed.

That's kinda scary , lol, they usually stay in Philly.

[DMBzilla]

Originally Posted by spoot388

outside of Bartender, #41, Seek Up, Jimi, Crush, LIOG, Dreaming Tree, and Two Step, they don't do extended jams period, let alone from a "crappy" song. its not like every amazing song is 15+ minutes and the "crappy" songs stay at 5 minutes. they play great songs that are short too. only 8 out of their 100+ songs routinely break 15 minutes.

What about...

Lying in the Hands of God
Recently
The Stone
The Last Stop
Dancing Nancies
Warehouse
Typical Situation

...and of which generally clock in at 10 minutes or more? Just because a song isn't 15 minutes doesn't mean it's not an "extended jam" song.

[DMBzilla]

Originally Posted by spoot388

as for Recently, in 08, the few times it was played, it was short (3 minutes). then the few times in 09 it was played it was 8 minutes. so who knows.

Recently eclipsed 10 minutes 5 of the 11 times it was played in 2009.

[DMBzilla]

Also, I need a pair of tickets in the Pit or in 101, 102 or 103 for N2 if anyone happens to have some lying around...

[dmb208]

Hello everyone! just about 20 something days til camden '10. Just figure, the last song we heard at Camden was a fantabulous Halloween. What does everybody think we are going to get this time around with all of the surprises that are being thrown at us this tour?

[BLaCerra28]

I'd like to see a Fool to Think opener N1....thoughts?

[BruceW]

i cannt waiittt for this!!

my first time at camden...staying in philly, so excited

[jdgotta#40git]

Originally Posted by BruceW

i cannt waiittt for this!!

my first time at camden...staying in philly, so excited

Me too bro. I'm stayin at the Sheraton. Going both nights. U?

[y100adics]

Hola Camden!!!! N1 pit!!!!!!

[firedancer811]

does anyone know how many the pit will hold?

[bonf71]

Originally Posted by BLaCerra28

I'd like to see a Fool to Think opener N1....thoughts?

I think you're a brave person to say that on the boards the way people have been hating on the band these days.

[kfpoling]

Originally Posted by BLaCerra28

I'd like to see a Fool to Think opener N1....thoughts?

Originally Posted by firedancer811

does anyone know how many the pit will hold?

too many

[firedancer811]

Originally Posted by kfpoling

too many

isnt it always too many?

but really, the spac pit is usually 7 rows, right? camden pit is about the same as i recall, the stage is just higher and probobly about the same distance away as the hartford pit. unless i'm completely wrong... which is also possible.

[DMBzilla]

Originally Posted by firedancer811

isnt it always too many?

but really, the spac pit is usually 7 rows, right? camden pit is about the same as i recall, the stage is just higher and probobly about the same distance away as the hartford pit. unless i'm completely wrong... which is also possible.

SPAC is usually 6 rows deep. According to the venue, it was supposed to hold 250 people with the GA setup, but there were no less than 400 people in there every night.

Camden is usually 8 rows deep, and holds approximately 350 people with seats. However, the GA Pit is going to hold around 800 this year.

[kfpoling]

i think spac pit is 5 rows, not 100% sure though. maybe 6?
i think camden is 6 rows...

but darien pit was only 7 rows i believe, but it was double the size of spac's pit.. and the stage was MUCH higher at darien-i think camden is a decent height
the height of the stage makes so much difference...

[DMBzilla]

Originally Posted by kfpoling

i think spac pit is 5 rows, not 100% sure though. maybe 6?
i think camden is 6 rows...

Yeah, just looked -- SPAC is 5 rows. Camden is definitely 8 though, and the stage is pretty high there compared to SPAC but not quite as high as Darien from what I could see from people's pics. Darien's is huge like Hershey's, and I know Camden's is lower than Hershey.