The MLB Thread

[ToySoldier#34]

Originally Posted by Rodey

Both of them had major advantages working for them: a bottomless pit of money.

Not hard to win in a big market with money.

Anyone can win world championships

[recentlyJTR41]

John Schuerholz is the best GM ever

[mr. testaverde]

Originally Posted by Rodey

Both of them had major advantages working for them: a bottomless pit of money.

Not hard to win in a big market with money.

Of course, the Yankees and Dodgers the last few years are great examples

[recentlyJTR41]

Originally Posted by mr. testaverde

Of course, the Yankees and Dodgers the last few years are great examples

Was just about to post that. It's not the market you're in, it's your front office and manager.

[rickyh24]

Theo is a hall of famer. I love him. He's not without the payrolls though.

[BotheLaneFan]

Originally Posted by DMBZeppelin

Jerry is great, but I wouldn't put him over Theo.

First off 80's NBA wasn't as deep. It's harder to build sustained success in modern sports with more teams (harder to compile talent), and free agency (harder to keep talent).

Jerry left the Lakers, like Theo did the Red Sox, to see if he can do it somewhere else. Jerry failed and Theo won. Meanwhile the infrastructure Theo left behind allowed the Red Sox to win a 3rd ring that had his finger prints all over it. Theo is 42 and his run with the Cubs is just beginning.

He also turned the Grizzlies from a complete joke that no one wanted to buy, to a consistent playoff team. He didn't hit a home run, but also was never going to have the money to do what Theo was able to do with the Cubs. It's a lot easier to get great talent to Chicago than to a Memphis team that no one wanted.

Jerry West is a key executive member for the Warriors, also. He's too old to run day to day, but his opinion is considered to be the most important to big operational things. He's won SEVEN titles as an NBA executive and is a two time executive of the year. He also set the Lakers up for big success after he left, not his fault they fucked everything up.

Logo is the best ever. Long live The Logo.

[rickyh24]

Originally Posted by BotheLockedThreadFan

Jerry West is the best front office person ever, Theo is a VERY respectable #2.

Coming from a Lakers/Cubs fan we will take this with a grain of salt.

[BotheLaneFan]

Originally Posted by rickyh24

Coming from a Lakers/Cubs fan we will take this with a grain of salt.

7 titles in a highly competitive NBA. God Bless the Logo.

Although, I guess it didn't hurt that Dr. Buss was the greatest owner in the history of sports. RIP.

[Tiduwho]

Why was Lebron pretending he isn't a Yankees fan by the way? Guy has been Yankees for ages, and now pretends it's Only Cleveland?

[Tiduwho]

Those ratings truly are incredible by the way, wow.

[BotheLaneFan]

Originally Posted by Tiduwho

Why was Lebron pretending he isn't a Yankees fan by the way? Guy has been Yankees for ages, and now pretends it's Only Cleveland?

He also went to Miami. Not exactly "Only Cleveland".

He's worse than A-Rod at his worst. He wants to be loved so much, and that makes him the villain. At least Kobe embraced that he was a piece of shit.

[smokew11]

Originally Posted by Rodey

Both of them had major advantages working for them: a bottomless pit of money.

Not hard to win in a big market with money.

didn't the Cubs have the 14th highest payroll? It's not like they are spending a lot- they are drafting well

and at the guy on the last page who said the cubs have historically been good

[YouNeverKnow25]

profligate spending hurts, not helps, baseball teams. when will this finally be learned?

[ToySoldier#34]

Random thought: John Smoltz was really really good

[YouNeverKnow25]

in the booth or as a player? both are true

[ToySoldier#34]

Well yeah but in the booth, excellent

[YouNeverKnow25]

yeah he is really good--and unlike a lot of old players, he doesn't thump the Sabermetrics Are Terrible and Will End the Game I Love bible

[mja271]

Smoltz is great. And honestly I enjoy Buck on play by play for baseball. I know a lot of people hate him and when he starts injecting his opinion too much he's annoying but I think he's got a great voice and generally gets too much flak for his work. He's better with baseball than football.

[YouNeverKnow25]

I think joe buck is fine. no problem with him. he pays attention to the game which is all I ask out of a play by play guy. it seems like an obvious thing but there are a lot of announcers who space out (or I imagine are listening intently to a producer, or looking at another screen) and miss something that happens, then spend 30-60 seconds questioning why the players are doing something when it would be clear to them if they had seen the preceding event. weird thing that I notice a lot but of course I can't come up with a concrete example of it right now.

[ToySoldier#34]

Originally Posted by mja271

Smoltz is great. And honestly I enjoy Buck on play by play for baseball. I know a lot of people hate him and when he starts injecting his opinion too much he's annoying but I think he's got a great voice and generally gets too much flak for his work. He's better with baseball than football.

... and horrid for golf

[mr. testaverde]

Originally Posted by mja271

Smoltz is great. And honestly I enjoy Buck on play by play for baseball. I know a lot of people hate him and when he starts injecting his opinion too much he's annoying but I think he's got a great voice and generally gets too much flak for his work. He's better with baseball than football.

i dont understand the hate for joe buck. i think he does a great job calling baseball games.

[hailtopitt]

wait people think Theo is best the GM of all-time in any sport? talk about knee-jerk reactions

i mean, guy is a hall-of-famer and one of the best of out generation for sure. but good lord the hyperbole is strong

[recentlyJTR41]

Originally Posted by hailtopitt

wait people think Theo is best the GM of all-time in any sport? talk about knee-jerk reactions

i mean, guy is a hall-of-famer and one of the best of out generation for sure. but good lord the hyperbole is strong

You tell em H2P. Educate these peeps!!

[mr. testaverde]

official ratings for game 7

http://www.tampabay.com/sports/baseb...game-7/2301358

Fox said there were in excess of 40 million viewers, the most-watched baseball game in 25 years (Twins-Braves in 1991 had 50.3 million), and an overnight rating of 25.2, the network's best baseball number since Game 7 of the 2001 Yankees-D'backs World Series.

[scrock25]

Anybody watching the parade on The Tre?

[TheLastPig]

Originally Posted by hailtopitt

wait people think Theo is best the GM of all-time in any sport? talk about knee-jerk reactions

i mean, guy is a hall-of-famer and one of the best of out generation for sure. but good lord the hyperbole is strong

I dont think its out of the question for him to be in the discussion.

No other GM can claim anything near what he has done.

[Gene Parmesan]

I'm watching the stream when I can at work. Local news anchor people suck.

[hailtopitt]

Originally Posted by TheLastPig

I dont think its out of the question for him to be in the discussion.

No other GM can claim anything near what he has done.

you mean winning 3 World Series'?

[ToySoldier#34]

Originally Posted by hailtopitt

you mean winning 3 World Series'?

It's not just that he won them, it's how and where

[TheLastPig]

Originally Posted by hailtopitt

you mean winning 3 World Series'?

No, ending two historic losing streaks with 2 different teams who are cornerstone franchises in their respective sport.