The NBA Thread

[ToySoldier#34]

Originally Posted by scrock25

I think carrying your team to the NBA Finals 8 straight years is bananaland insane. Minimize it all you want.

I called him a great player right?

[Lee3691]

Originally Posted by ToySoldier#34

LeBron is as talented as anyone ever has been, he doesn't have the heart that MJ and others have had though. He's obviously up there on the all time list but I just don't think of GOATs of anything being athletes who quit in the playoffs when things aren't going their way.

One could argue that Jordan retiring a few times and is lack of Finals appearances despite great talent around him suggests his 'heart' isn't quite what you described it. That's not really what I believe though.

[YankeesDMB41]

My friend tried to push the "The East sucks, it's not really that impressive" narrative. Didn't work. Lebron is the GOAT even without this series...and if he somehow wins the finals with this team, the debate becomes less competitive.

[DMBstandUP1984]

https://twitter.com/adamjones985/sta...803714050?s=21

Jones gets it

[CrashDMB237]

1: Jordan
1.5: James

And that might just be nostalgia talking at this point.

[dontdrink36]

What a phenomenal performance by Lebron. Jeff Green stepped up too. It's such a privilege to be able to watch Lebron play. I hope he can do it 4 more times to bring home the championship.

As far as the GOAT thing is concerned I think everyone can agree that there has never been anyone better at playing basketball than Lebron. You can debate the more decorated career, but not the skill with which Lebron plays.

[dontdrink36]

Originally Posted by Lee3691

If somehow the Cavs win the title this year though, that is very compelling for Lebron's case.

Did he not do that in 2016? He led his team to a ring from down 3-1 against the greatest team ever. He did so by leading every player on both teams in points, rebounds, assists, steals, and blocks!

Does he have to do it again to help his case?

[Roose13]

I've finally shifted from the MJ camp to the Bron camp. He may be the greatest athlete of any sport I've seen in my lifetime.

[ToySoldier#34]

Originally Posted by YankeesDMB41

My friend tried to push the "The East sucks, it's not really that impressive" narrative. Didn't work.

Didn't work because you don't agree?

[CrashDMB237]

Originally Posted by ToySoldier#34

Didn't work because you don't agree?

It doesn’t work because LeBron still plays at a ridiculously superior level compared to every other player that also has to play against the same players/teams/conference. It’s an extremely weak argument.

[ToySoldier#34]

Originally Posted by CrashDMB237

It doesn’t work because LeBron still plays at a ridiculously superior level compared to every other player that also has to play against the same players/teams/conference. It’s an extremely weak argument.

Your argument really has nothing to do with comparing 80's / 90's NBA to LeBron's time

[YouNeverKnow25]

Are you trying to imply that the nba was better then than now?

[CrashDMB237]

Originally Posted by ToySoldier#34

Your argument really has nothing to do with comparing 80's / 90's NBA to LeBron's time

Nor did the post you quoted unless I’m missing something.

[CrashDMB237]

Originally Posted by YouNeverKnow25

Are you trying to imply that the nba was better then than now?

Also this ^^^

[YouNeverKnow25]

And let’s not act like Lebrons history is fully written. At the same age Jordan had the same number of titles and worse overall playoff performance.

[Lee3691]

Originally Posted by YouNeverKnow25

And let’s not act like Lebrons history is fully written. At the same age Jordan had the same number of titles and worse overall playoff performance.

At 33, Jordan had been to 3 Finals.
At 33, Lebron is going to his 9th Finals.

It just can't be about championships (although it is one of the most important factors) or the argument would start and end with Bill Russell.

[Speilmen230]

Where does Kareem land in the GOAT conversation? 6 rings in 10 appearances

[Lee3691]

Kareem is top 5 in my opinion (along with Jordan, Lebron, Magic and Russell)

[DMBstandUP1984]

My only beef with LeBron is he is a cornball

[Rodey]

Originally Posted by rickyh24

It’s fine to think Lebron is the GOAT. He’s really close. Acting like beating this celtics team to get to the finals is the nail in the GOAT arguments coffin is hilarious though. A legit team bounces this cavs team in 4 - 6 games. 6 is being generous.

I agree with this post the most.

[emu513]

If the Celtics aren’t “legit” and thus there are no “legit” teams in the East, are we basically saying there are only two “legit” teams in the NBA (Cavs excluded) because I’d sure take these Celtics over every West team not the Warriors or Rockets. Doesn’t seem like an appropriate qualifier to add to this Lebrun run.

[mdel21]

I will always side with MJ growing up watching him. There was nothing like it. LeBron is approaching him. The one thing that I think holds him back for me is not the losses in the finals with the shitty teams, it's not winning 4 in a row in Miami. They had 3 HOFers, and one borderline HOFer and they went 2-2. I don't believe Jordan loses any of those finals, although him and Wade are the same position so I'm not sure how the roster works, but whatever.

[rickyh24]

Originally Posted by emu513

If the Celtics aren’t “legit” and thus there are no “legit” teams in the East, are we basically saying there are only two “legit” teams in the NBA.

The way it worked out this year I’d say there were no legit teams in the east.

[Lee3691]

CP3 out - get ready for Warriors / Cavs, part 4

[dontdrink36]

The refs are really helping out the Warriors.

[justinandimcool]

feels like i'm watching a replay of last night. cannot believe game 7 is when these shots stop falling and at this volume

[dontdrink36]

Its unbelievable how bad the Rockets are shooting this half.

[BruceW]

Originally Posted by mdel21

I will always side with MJ growing up watching him. There was nothing like it. LeBron is approaching him. The one thing that I think holds him back for me is not the losses in the finals with the shitty teams, it's not winning 4 in a row in Miami. They had 3 HOFers, and one borderline HOFer and they went 2-2. I don't believe Jordan loses any of those finals, although him and Wade are the same position so I'm not sure how the roster works, but whatever.

The Spurs loss was pretty much expected. The Mavericks was the perplexing one.

[sbuzzz]

Originally Posted by YouNeverKnow25

And let’s not act like Lebrons history is fully written. At the same age Jordan had the same number of titles and worse overall playoff performance.

Originally Posted by Lee3691

At 33, Jordan had been to 3 Finals.
At 33, Lebron is going to his 9th Finals.

It just can't be about championships (although it is one of the most important factors) or the argument would start and end with Bill Russell.

Excellent posts.

I’m old enough to have watched Jordan through every bit of his career. It’s easy to forget the first portion when he was given plenty of shit that he was never going to win anything.

[Lee3691]

The person most upset with this chokejob by the Rockets is Lebron as he had a chance against the Rockets. The Cavs - unless Golden State suffers major injuries - have no chance against the Warriors.